Vatican Overturning of Local Bishops Affirmation on Lipa is Validly Questionable

With this happening since 1948, it is not surprising that people of the Philippines and the world are confused.  We need the Vatican to stop playing ping pong with Lipa and Fatima.

It doesn’t look like Pius XII signed Anything@

A decision made by the Vatican on the apparitions in the Philippines some 60 years ago has confused Filipino Catholics

“The devotees are unhappy, unsatisfied and not at peace with themselves” said retired Archbishhop Oscar Cruz of Lingayen Dagupan.

The prelate said devotees of the Our Lady Mediatrix of All Grace have been asking for “some sort of review”

Our Lady had identified herself as “I am Mary, Mediatrix of All Grace”

Rose Petals fell from the sky in showers.   Some had miraculous images on them.  It was noted by many that the petals fell straight down to where thousands of people stood even though a wind was blowing.  Botanists have examined the petals and determined that they were from a variety of rose which grew in Russia.  An overpowering fragrance of roses has been reported to usher in the showers.  The people knew and all could be heard to shout “showers coming” Many cures have been reported from the rose petals.

In December of last year, the Vatican issued a decree declaring the 1948 Marian apparitions at a Carmelite Monastery in Lipa, in Batangas province had no supernatural origin.  The Vatican statement overruled the decision of the local Bishop that the apparitions were of “supernatural origin” They base their opposition on an alleged decision of Pope Pius XII which said it was not supernatural.

Father Paul Kramer records that “According to Canon Law, if there appears on a decree of the Holy Office such words  as “with the approval of the Supreme Pontiff” or after consultation with the Supreme Pontiff ” then the decree has the authority of a papal act.  If a diocesan decree has such a phrase as “after consultation with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith” (as is the case with the Declaration of the Diocese of Brooklyn on the alleged apparitions of Bayside) or “with the approval of the CDF” then the decree has the force of a Roman cuial act.

There is no such clause on the April 11, 1951 decree:                                                                      April 11, 1951                                                                                                                                          We, the undersigned Archbishops and Bishops, constituting for the purpose of a special have attentively examined and reviewed the evidence and testimonies in the course of repeated, long, and careful examinations, have reached the unanimous conclusion and hereby officially declare that the above mentioned evidence and testimonies exclude any supernatural intervention in the reported extraordinary happenings – including the shower of petals at the Carmel of Lipa.     (There was more than one shower)

If Pius XII whispered his “definitive confirmation”, or wrote it, signed it and put it in a drawer – but it was not noted on the decree, then the decree has no force beyond its own face value, and the alleged “definitive confirmation” would be utterly bereft of any judicial force whatsoever.  The onus is on the CDF to produce the evidence of the alleged confirmation, otherwise the claim must be dismissed by by the CBCP as apocryphal.  It is standard procedure to note the approval of a higher authority on the decree itself.  Such a notation is nowhere to be found on the decree.  April 1951;  and it is inconceivable that Pius XII issued some other decree confirming the 11/05/1951 decree on Lipa, since such a decree is totally unknown to ever have existed, and unless duly promulgated, it would remain bereft of all juridical force.

Whoever it was in the CDF who claimed that Pius XII (made a “definitive confirmation in 1951”, and “declared they were not of supernatural originn”, must have studied Canon Law at the Alice in Wonderland Institute, or elsehas perpetrated a deliberate act of fraud in order to deceive the Catholic hierarchy and faithful of the Pilippines.’


This reviewing Commission which signed the above written declaration:’Manila, April 11, 1951

Gabriel M. Reyes; Archbishop of Manila (Signed)

Mariano Madriaga;  Bishop of Lingayen  (Signed)

Cesar M. Guerro;  Bishop of San Fernando  (Signed)

Juan Sison;  Auxiliary Bishop of Nueva Segovia (Signed)

Vincente Reyes;  Auxiliary Bishop of Manila  (Signed)

Rufino Santos  Apostolic Administrator of Lipa April 11, 1951  Concordat cum originali

Egidio Vagnozzi  Apostolic Nuncio    (Signed)



Meanwhile China continues to militarize islands in the South China Sea as Our Lady prophesied at Lipa in a 1948 secret to the see Sister Teresita Castillo that China would invade the world through the Philippines.  And who is complaining about China now owning the South China Sea?381323f21fdcd33abd84f1b52f391252.jpg